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Fund Holdings - A Query
Harry Trout
Posted: 03 August 2017 14:59:51(UTC)
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I have just received an e-mail from Citywire promoting their article about Purplebricks

It says in the article that Old Mutual UK Mid Cap own the share and this got my interest as this is the largest fund in my portfolio and I hadn't realised that I held Purplebricks indirectly.

So I checked the latest accounts to see how much is in the fund by reference to the 31 January 17 accounts and Purplebricks isn't registered as an investment.

Assuming that the fund manager bought Purplebricks after 31 January, my question is how would Citywire know this?

It would be nice to know how you can find out what the funds are invested in more regularly than the annual accounts. Appreciate that top 10 holdings is regularly available, it's beyond the top 10 that my question arises.

Can anyone help?

Many thanks

Harry Trout
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Sara G
Posted: 03 August 2017 20:07:32(UTC)
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I would imagine that as part of their fund manager rating system CW meet regularly with managers and are briefed regarding acquisitions. I tried looking for a recent factsheet, but to no avail. Most funds issue these on a monthly or quarterly basis, giving details of transactions, performance of individual holdings and sometimes their views on the macro picture, but not this fund apparently.
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Harry Trout on 04/08/2017(UTC)
Tyrion Lannister
Posted: 06 August 2017 23:50:36(UTC)
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If you invest with HL they offer a fund analysis feature which collates the holdings of all your UT funds down to individual stocks. From this, they show your top 10 socks as a percentage of your portfolio.

To do this HL must have access to all the holdings held by each fund; if HL have this data then presumably other brokers have it too?
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lynne shaffer
Posted: 07 August 2017 03:45:15(UTC)
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Does HL do the same analysis for ITs?
Harry Trout
Posted: 07 August 2017 07:05:41(UTC)
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lynne shaffer;49580 wrote:
Does HL do the same analysis for ITs?


I have just tried on a couple of ITs that I hold with HL and you can do this analysis.
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Tyrion Lannister
Posted: 07 August 2017 11:31:57(UTC)
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lynne shaffer;49580 wrote:
Does HL do the same analysis for ITs?


Sadly not, but apparently they are working on it.
Tyrion Lannister
Posted: 07 August 2017 11:42:01(UTC)
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Harry Trout;49581 wrote:
lynne shaffer;49580 wrote:
Does HL do the same analysis for ITs?


I have just tried on a couple of ITs that I hold with HL and you can do this analysis.


I'm not sure what you mean here, but the portfolio analysis tool doesn't allow you to analyse individual ITs. I've just tried and I get an error message.

I hold a mix of UTs and ITs, and when I do a portfolio analysis ITs are lumped into one group, "unclassified"

Also, I contacted HL directly and they confirmed that the portfolio analysis tool does not breakdown the detail of ITs.
Harry Trout
Posted: 07 August 2017 12:28:26(UTC)
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Tyrion Lannister;49592 wrote:
Harry Trout;49581 wrote:
lynne shaffer;49580 wrote:
Does HL do the same analysis for ITs?


I have just tried on a couple of ITs that I hold with HL and you can do this analysis.


I'm not sure what you mean here, but the portfolio analysis tool doesn't allow you to analyse individual ITs. I've just tried and I get an error message.

I hold a mix of UTs and ITs, and when I do a portfolio analysis ITs are lumped into one group, "unclassified"

Also, I contacted HL directly and they confirmed that the portfolio analysis tool does not breakdown the detail of ITs.


Apologies, you are quite right, I must have ticked the wrong selections
Tony Salmon
Posted: 30 October 2017 18:22:13(UTC)
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I was gonna, still May invest in Old Mutual Gloabal but I did have a problem there was no fund fact sheet on them. Hargrews Lansdown always has one at least for all the other funds I have invest or looked into

So now I not so sure If I should invest. I like to Read that to comapre with other funds before I invest

This is weird that there was no fund fact sheet
Hank Elvis Dobbs (texan)
Posted: 30 October 2017 18:54:41(UTC)
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Time to raise some cash...deary me
King Lodos
Posted: 30 October 2017 22:46:25(UTC)
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Hank Elvis Dobbs (texan);52625 wrote:
Time to raise some cash...deary me


TV license time again? Tony Peterson might lend you a bit.

He told me he could pay a full TV license every 6 hours on dividend income alone

Alan Selwood
Posted: 31 October 2017 00:19:48(UTC)
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Let me guess.....

Hank writes a coded message ("time to change from equities to cash"?)

Cueball sent lots of coded messages that steered you towards Polypipe, Greggs, and I think also Ashtead.

Do both posters work together on an equity desk?
Do they think the same to the extent that one is a doppelgänger of the other?

Are they, heaven forbid, the same poster with two wigs or hats or accents?

The mystery deepens.........
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Tyrion Lannister
Posted: 31 October 2017 00:28:44(UTC)
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Alan Selwood;52637 wrote:
Let me guess.....

Hank writes a coded message ("time to change from equities to cash"?)

Cueball sent lots of coded messages that steered you towards Polypipe, Greggs, and I think also Ashtead.

Do both posters work together on an equity desk?
Do they think the same to the extent that one is a doppelgänger of the other?

Are they, heaven forbid, the same poster with two wigs or hats or accents?

The mystery deepens.........


I haven’t a clue who cueball is and it’s too much effort to work out what the wanna be JR is talking about so I just ignore him!

So in answer to your question, who cares?
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Hank Elvis Dobbs (texan)
Posted: 31 October 2017 11:23:38(UTC)
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Alan Selwood;52637 wrote:
Let me guess.....

Hank writes a coded message ("time to change from equities to cash"?)

Cueball sent lots of coded messages that steered you towards Polypipe, Greggs, and I think also Ashtead.

Do both posters work together on an equity desk?
Do they think the same to the extent that one is a doppelgänger of the other?

Are they, heaven forbid, the same poster with two wigs or hats or accents?

The mystery deepens.........


C'mon Al..you can do better than that...Ashtead were £7..Polypipe ...2.70...Greggs..10 quid...(all of which I still hold) but what about all the others...? Gleeson 3.50...VSVS...£3...Rotork..1.60......MNL..2.80 (Thanks Dyfed)...BRWM.....1.80.... FCSS....1.15 ...Ashmore £1.97....ETC ETC ETC

I recall that guy Cueball during those dark days of 2016 trying to help and reassure others...some of us listened

Few have the guts to name their trades in real time eh lodo?....Walked past your car again this morning... still in the showroom (knutsford).

x
Hank Elvis Dobbs (texan)
Posted: 31 October 2017 12:42:42(UTC)
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...As John Wayne used to say ...You can lead a horse ...but you can bet your life it'll splash yer toes.....Ha Ha...Lighten up eh?
Chris Dean
Posted: 31 October 2017 18:05:42(UTC)
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Are you being Frank, Hank?
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Hank Elvis Dobbs (texan)
Posted: 31 October 2017 19:37:41(UTC)
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When the fun stops..stop
Alan Selwood
Posted: 31 October 2017 19:50:41(UTC)
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If someone talks like cueball, walks like..........
Hank Elvis Dobbs (texan)
Posted: 31 October 2017 21:03:53(UTC)
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I guess you didn't buy ferg either Alan...?
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